Thursday, August 1, 2013

Got bugreport but can't repicate problem

I need help.

I got bugreport yesterday in comments, that game can hangup in some cases. I spends several hours trying my best to replicate situation, and nothing! Please, can anyone confirm that game can hang, and become unresponsible? If so, can you replicate this? How?

Also I found several small bugs. They do not cause anything unusual otherwise then non working "proxy leaving after several wakeups in the hospital" condition - but patch for them will be soon.

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  1. What situation were you trying to replicate?

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  2. i think it got nothing to do with game it think it there pc

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  3. I have a child blessed by daria that seems to make the game very unstable. Trying to proxy her or check her appearance can freeze up the game. (not every time, but usually)

    Her age doesn't seem to increment in sync as the days pass. I think the crash comes from jumping forward a few days and then trying to look at her appearance before it finishes aging her.

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    1. No, this case not related, I think. It's not full hangs, only freezing. This is payment for the very complex game mechanic with script support. Fast growing works in the background as very processor intensive operation, and can cause this effect, and foreground need to wait it to finsh in some cases.

      Age increasing not in sync - it's the same. Game just can't do all calculation for the character in realtime.

      But it's not supposed to cause full crashes, only temporary freezing on some operations with ability to resume normal game.(Operations: tying to look at agency, save, or see appearance).

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    2. Upd: Managed to replicate "unstability" and full freezing in this case. It's definitely a bug, though it can't affect other cases. But anyway - thank you for this report, it very useful too.

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  4. I was trying to get one of my girls pregnant, so I had her sexing up my futa repeatedly and getting milked most of the rest of the time. I wasn't making any progress, so I switched and made the girl the set partner and had the futa initiate sex and the game froze up. I can't remember if it was when I initiated sex, or during a specific act (possibly choosing to "come inside,") but I couldn't choose anything after that. Also, the game didn't actually *crash*. I could still drag the window and it never faded white, I was just incapable of using any of the in game buttons to proceed.

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    1. Please try to remember and tell me this:

      1. How many proxy you have at this time?
      2. Do any of them have potential problem with health, mood, or tiredness? (Potential problem - values can go down as the time passing from some effects.)
      2. Do you have Daria bless active on any character?

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  5. I have had a few crashes, usually when I press a button. The last time it was when I tried to snoop in Dr Genki's office after hours.

    I also found a problem with his boob job surgery, I have enough money on the girl, but when I pick the size the button just says No and I get taken back. Is it because she's pregnant?

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    1. Please, describle how exactly "crash" looks. Do game just hangs, or it actual crash with application closing and showing system error message?


      >I also found a problem..
      It's because she not relaxed enough. Operation need some minimal lewdness.

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    2. When it freezes for me, I click on the button, it gets the blue highlighting and the little dotted highlight, then nothing. I can't click a different button or do anything else on the window, but every other application is normal. If I minimize and restore the Java window it comes up as a black featureless screen. I'v had to just close it from the windows task manager each time it's happened. Running Win7, for what it's worth, and Java build 1.7.0_25-b17

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    3. Ok, this description helps. It seems like deadlock between foreground and background tasks. I begin to check it...

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    4. Thanks, I'll let you know if I find anything different.

      Though for the breast implants, I just gotta say, it seems a little weird for her to have hangups about getting her tits done, when she sucked like 80 dicks last week, in between mugging tentacle monsters and jacking them off into bottles. That's pretty fucking lewd right there, don't act like getting a boob job is some huge life-altering event. :D

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    5. Hm, if she lewd enough to regular blowjob, she supposed to be enough for implants... There is something more, I think.

      I'm rechecked to be sure, and these is exactly conditions:

      - To select implant, proxy need to be lewd enough. (If she can do blowjobs without mood droping - it's enough)
      - To confirm, and actually do a operation she need:
      1. Have money +800 in her pocket.
      2. Not be a pregnant.

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  6. This is the guy who made the initial bug report in the comments in the last posting. I was wondering if the background calculations are going and the game allows the foreground to continue altering data could the background go in a never ending loop? Because my resource monitor says my comp is allowing java %25 of my resources (max my computer will let it use).

    Typically I don't really see it until i hit day 120 or later, and the act that I think it typically hangs (by that i mean the computer is doing a lot of calculations but isn't allowing the program to be interacted with hence the 25% maxed allowed which thank god cause it could possibly freeze my pc lol) on when a stat is changed or like i think i said, when mood changed.

    Another thing to add is that it typically happens when i'm just clicking quickly between things cause i'm not the type of person to read the same text 50 times when I know I've read it once before. hence why i'm wondering if data changed during background calculations if it will endlessly loop.

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    1. Oh, now it's begin to make some points for me where to begin look.

      No, endless loop can't be the case (my code never have anything, that can cause them - like a cycles without ending conditions).
      But there is possible one symilar things - deadlocks between background and foreground threads. As multithreading coding not this obviously, in this part can be such errors. Thanks.

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  7. I'm going to assume that you are using centimeters as your unit of measure. I want to go back and adjust the sizes in the descriptions I had sent you if you already haven't been working on it. Right now I'm proofreading the Belanika scenes and it looks like that are two or three orphan scenes. At least I have not found anything linking to them.

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    1. Yes: centimeters, milliliters, gramms. No problem - I'll wait for yours updates to add them.

      In case that you need more information:

      Breast: value is centimeters - as a half-sphere radius. (Roughly: how far is most far point of the single breast from the chest.)

      Abdomen - the same. Also "waist" value affected with it size (used geometry calcuations).

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    2. Oh so you are using radius, not diameter. Well that would have been embarrassing. That saved me a lot of work. Though for now I'm going to keep the cup sizes the way they are. That's going to take a good amount of time to try and roughly translate between US and Metric cup measurements. So are you using radius for ball size as well?

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    3. No, for balls calculated value is a diameter of scrotum.

      Values used to be most easy for visualisation: breast and belly - how far they out, balls - how big they together (as we actually do not see separate balls, only scrotum).

      Cup sizes that used, from this article, UK table (My error, I sayed before about EU/japan - it's not true): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassiere_measurement
      (But value is still in centimeters, so you can't just look in the table - value need to be converted in inches.)

      This all is the another case that I prefer not to give to player any actual numbers in the "Appearance" window and text. Using comparisions with common things/items like apple, mellon, etc, is more universal. They will be understanded by all.

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    4. So radius is used for breasts and belly while diameter is used for balls/scrotum. Got it.

      Yes it is tougher to include specific cup sizes in appearances due the smaller variations, but it might be more satisfying if able to pull it off. Plus I see the game as science-fantasy, not science-fact, so no need to be precise with the measurements.

      I've completed going through the Belanika interactions, save for what I thought was orphan threads. I went through all the forest and intro events. I also went back and redid a lot of the felis events I previously gave to you. I even went through the history and anatomy books. What was there was good. It just needed proofreading and some doctoring up.

      I really hope you don't mind that I did significant changes to some of what was written. I was trying to flesh the scenes out plus some things had to be rewritten to clarify what was going on.

      So here is the zip of the current things I did.

      http://www.mediafire.com/download/locd950gfgdkv4b/FMWork2.zip

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    5. Thank you, I downloaded it.

      About game world genre - you are right, and it can be named even "modern times fantasy" without "science". :)

      I don't mind even about serious changes, though I review them for the logical incompatibility with other parts of the game world before adding.

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    6. That's good. Then I will continue editing as I am until such time you tell me to stop.

      I should have ran some of the events through before sending them to you. I had played through the Belanika scenes and found some typos and coding errors. Same in a Felis scene as well as a few forest scenes. I've tweaked them and they seem to look fine now.

      I also have gone through and converted the inches in the description files to centimeters. I've included what I feel is complete so you can look them over. I'm still working on the belly and breasts. I've managed to get the cup sizes converted over. It just needs tweaking now.

      This is a zip of the revised files.
      http://www.mediafire.com/download/f4pwqe8aq5bbqvw/FMRevisions.zip

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    7. Thank you. Downloaded. I'll begin to integrate it all in the game right after finishing with the freezing bug. And if you can - it's more easy for me, if archive will contain folder structure of the actual game folder structure. (*.walk files has field with the right path for them, but other files do not have such filed.)

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